The Red Robin Costume Came Out of Nowhere

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Tim Drake took over the mantle of Robin from Dick Grayson in “The New Batman Adventures” after stealing his costume, and…wait, that’s a very different costume that we’ve never seen before, and it never gets explained. Where the heck did the red Robin suit come from?

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0:00 – Intro
0:54 – Sponsor
2:53 – The Robin Suit Conundrum
5:32 – Never-Before-Seen
7:49 – Option 1: The Same Costume
11:34 – Option 2: Jason Todd
16:12 – Giveaways
17:02 – Option 3: Little Richard
19:02 – Right Under Our Bat-Nose
21:45 – Outro

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40 thoughts on “The Red Robin Costume Came Out of Nowhere

  1. I always thought that that was the case it was just his first suit from when he was like 13, it probably was on display because when Dick storms off after punching Batman he took the suit with him.

  2. Here's the reason that I think they changed to the Red Robin costume and the explanation for "the real Robin" costume quote. The real reason is, the original suit had wear and tear, then got trashed and replaced with an upgrade. To explain Alfred's reaction and quote, maybe had had other pressing things on his mind and was careless with his words. Sometimes people brush people off with an offhand comment because they don't want to go into an encyclopedic explanation of things. Alfred had other things on his mind and instead of going into a long-winded explanation, he said, "Yep that's the real Robin's costume," just to be done with it. I do that all the time. Plus, I think the Red Robin costume is a much better design and a better evolution of the costume. Mystery solved.

  3. 10:22

    I mean there are three people in that room, one of them is child (probably couldn't/wouldn't), one of them is a grown man that is extremely socially stunted, one of them is an experienced elderly man who has been in the military and been a father figure to many people.

    My bets are on Alfred, the guy probably wouldn't feel any shame doing it if he knew it helped, has the discipline to do so, and likely doesn't view her as anything more than a child due to essentially being a father figure for the past 20-30 years to Bruce, Dick, and Tim.

  4. There would be no green costume left in the batcave because we see Dick Grayson leaving with the green suit on in "Old Wounds" like in the flashback clips you presented in this well-thought out video. At the very least, there would be one less green suit if Dick had taken the green suit with him… leaving me to believe the green suit in the batcave was a spare. I agree that the red suit is probably Jason Todd's or Dick's childhood costume*.

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  6. The Boy Wonder's comic origin actually referred to Robin Hood, especially as depicted in William Soare's art. There you got a bird-red tunic with lincoln-green highlights. So yeah…definitely wierd to see a Robin costume with no green.

  7. We here really talking about the Red Suite, when Barb is rocking the Blue and Yellows, which are a completely different design? Not to mention Catwoman more simplified costumes and poison Ivy's serious melanin issue. I think the different lens theory is the only way to explain it, all the other appearances were just fan service in non-canon breaking appearances.

  8. Personally, I like the idea that it was the outfit when Dick was younger long before the BTAS. To me, that would make sense concerning the DCAU timeline because this version of Tim Drake was actually a combination of Jason Todd and Tim Drake in the comics. It's not as weird as the changes to Joker's redesign in TNAB.

    However, at the same time even though the character designers didn't put much thought into it, the other thing you could also take into consideration is that it would be a lot more easier for the animators and colorists to work with that in the it'd make things more steam lined in that regard. Ultimately in the animation industry, simplicity in design makes the difference.

    Ultimately, I wouldn't exactly try to compare the spin off comics or any other timeline because there's really no point in over thinking the creative liberty that Bruce Timm and the rest of the creators made when they were making the show. (At least… from my perspective having studied animation)